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[lfs-support] Info on package bzip2-1.0.6 in LFS 8.2
Terence Waterhouse
2018-09-06 14:11:22 UTC
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Dear sir,

 

Although I have been using exclusively Linux for many many years it is only a few days ago I decided to buils my own system using LFS v.8.2. I am not quite certain which list this post should actually be on, but I subscribed to this list because I shall probably need it later... I do not generally post unnecessary questions, and indeed, I don't post questions at all. So here goes :

 

Building LFS 8.2 went smoothly until section 5.18 bzip2-1.0.6. When I tried to untar the package I got the following output:

 

tar: This does not look like a tar archive gzip:

stdin: not in gzip format

tar: Child returned status 1

tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

 

In fact it is apparently a html file according to 'file' output with a tar.gz extension. I first downloaded the original packages with the wget-list file, then, meeting this problem, ran wget with the specific file name. No succes. I tried the site http//:www.bzip.org and could find no trace of the sources. A visit to the site will tell you why.

 

I tried all the usual tricks to unpack it with absolutely no succes. To cut things short I spent 2 days searching the web to no avail then sent off a desperate search for "what happened to bzip2?" This search produced the following link :

 

https://lwn.net/Articles/762264/

 

I also found on this page the following link to the source files of bzip2 and it is the only link I have been able to find:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20140722223512/http://www.bzip.org/1.0.6/bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz

 

Download

replace the package obtained from wget-list

untar

and carry on as usual.

 

I might attract your attention to the fact that the post at lwn.net is dated August 9th 2018 and so is recent.

 

As LFS uses bzip2 extensively it seemed to me that this information might be of some use. I can only hope that the newly downloaded version works. . .

 

Many many thanks for the great work, I will let you know if I run into any difficulties with the package.

I leave it to your judgement as to how to address this potentially important issue.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Terence Waterhouse

 

 
Hazel Russman
2018-09-06 15:15:06 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST)
Post by Terence Waterhouse
Dear sir,
 
 
 
stdin: not in gzip format
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
 
In fact it is apparently a html file according to 'file' output with a tar.gz extension. I first downloaded the original packages with the wget-list file, then, meeting this problem, ran wget with the specific file name. No succes. I tried the site http//:www.bzip.org and could find no trace of the sources. A visit to the site will tell you why.
 
 
https://lwn.net/Articles/762264/
 
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20140722223512/http://www.bzip.org/1.0.6/bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz
 
Download
replace the package obtained from wget-list
untar
and carry on as usual.
 
I might attract your attention to the fact that the post at lwn.net is dated August 9th 2018 and so is recent.
 
As LFS uses bzip2 extensively it seemed to me that this information might be of some use. I can only hope that the newly downloaded version works. . .
 
Many many thanks for the great work, I will let you know if I run into any difficulties with the package.
I leave it to your judgement as to how to address this potentially important issue.
 
Yours sincerely
 
Terence Waterhouse
I just checked. It's not on Anduin. There's a link but it leads nowhere. That's strange because I had no problem finding it in 8.3-rc2. 
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Douglas R. Reno
2018-09-06 15:37:04 UTC
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Post by Hazel Russman
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST)
Post by Terence Waterhouse
Dear sir,
Although I have been using exclusively Linux for many many years it is
only a few days ago I decided to buils my own system using LFS v.8.2. I am
not quite certain which list this post should actually be on, but I
subscribed to this list because I shall probably need it later... I do not
generally post unnecessary questions, and indeed, I don't post questions at
Post by Terence Waterhouse
Building LFS 8.2 went smoothly until section 5.18 bzip2-1.0.6. When I
stdin: not in gzip format
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
In fact it is apparently a html file according to 'file' output with a
tar.gz extension. I first downloaded the original packages with the
wget-list file, then, meeting this problem, ran wget with the specific file
name. No succes. I tried the site http//:www.bzip.org and could find no
trace of the sources. A visit to the site will tell you why.
Post by Terence Waterhouse
I tried all the usual tricks to unpack it with absolutely no succes. To
cut things short I spent 2 days searching the web to no avail then sent off
a desperate search for "what happened to bzip2?" This search produced the
Post by Terence Waterhouse
https://lwn.net/Articles/762264/
I also found on this page the following link to the source files of
https://web.archive.org/web/20140722223512/http://www.bzip.org/1.0.6/bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz
Post by Terence Waterhouse
Download
replace the package obtained from wget-list
untar
and carry on as usual.
I might attract your attention to the fact that the post at lwn.net is
dated August 9th 2018 and so is recent.
Post by Terence Waterhouse
As LFS uses bzip2 extensively it seemed to me that this information
might be of some use. I can only hope that the newly downloaded version
works. . .
Post by Terence Waterhouse
Many many thanks for the great work, I will let you know if I run into
any difficulties with the package.
Post by Terence Waterhouse
I leave it to your judgement as to how to address this potentially
important issue.
Post by Terence Waterhouse
Yours sincerely
Terence Waterhouse
I just checked. It's not on Anduin. There's a link but it leads nowhere.
That's strange because I had no problem finding it in 8.3-rc2.
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Guys/Gals,

Check out this link -
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/teams/releng/tarballs-needing-help/bzip2/bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz

GNOME has it as well :-)
Terence Waterhouse
2018-09-06 15:52:48 UTC
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Message du 06/09/18 17:37
De : "Douglas R. Reno"
A : "LFS Support List"
Objet : Re: [lfs-support] Info on package bzip2-1.0.6 in LFS 8.2
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:30 AM Hazel Russman wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST)
Post by Terence Waterhouse
Dear sir,
 
 
 
stdin: not in gzip format
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
 
In fact it is apparently a html file according to 'file' output with a tar.gz extension. I first downloaded the original packages with the wget-list file, then, meeting this problem, ran wget with the specific file name. No succes. I tried the site http//:www.bzip.org and could find no trace of the sources. A visit to the site will tell you why.
 
 
https://lwn.net/Articles/762264/
 
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20140722223512/http://www.bzip.org/1.0.6/bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz
 
Download
replace the package obtained from wget-list
untar
and carry on as usual.
 
I might attract your attention to the fact that the post at lwn.net is dated August 9th 2018 and so is recent.
 
As LFS uses bzip2 extensively it seemed to me that this information might be of some use. I can only hope that the newly downloaded version works. . .
 
Many many thanks for the great work, I will let you know if I run into any difficulties with the package.
I leave it to your judgement as to how to address this potentially important issue.
 
Yours sincerely
 
Terence Waterhouse
I just checked. It's not on Anduin. There's a link but it leads nowhere. That's strange because I had no problem finding it in 8.3-rc2. 
--
Hazel Russman
Guys/Gals,
Check out this link - http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/teams/releng/tarballs-needing-help/bzip2/bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz
GNOME has it as well :-) 
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Thank you Douglas ! I will keep this safely bookmarked !
Terence
 
Terence Waterhouse
2018-09-06 15:43:19 UTC
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Message du 06/09/18 17:30
De : "Hazel Russman"
Objet : Re: [lfs-support] Info on package bzip2-1.0.6 in LFS 8.2
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Terence Waterhouse wrote: > Dear sir, > >   > > Although I have been using exclusively Linux for many many years it is only a few days ago I decided to buils my own system using LFS v.8.2. I am not quite certain which list this post should actually be on, but I subscribed to this list because I shall probably need it later... I do not generally post unnecessary questions, and indeed, I don't post questions at all. So here goes : > >   > > Building LFS 8.2 went smoothly until section 5.18 bzip2-1.0.6. When I tried to untar the package I got the following output: > >   > > tar: This does not look like a tar archive gzip: > > stdin: not in gzip format > > tar: Child returned status 1 > > tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now > >   > > In fact it is apparently a html file according to 'file' output with a tar.gz extension. I first downloaded the original packages with the wget-list file, then, meeting this problem, ran wget with the specific file name. No succes. I tried the site http//:www.bzip.org and could find no trace of the sources. A visit to the site will tell you why. > >   > > I tried all the usual tricks to unpack it with absolutely no succes. To cut things short I spent 2 days searching the web to no avail then sent off a desperate search for "what happened to bzip2?" This search produced the following link : > >   > > https://lwn.net/Articles/762264/ > >   > > I also found on this page the following link to the source files of bzip2 and it is the only link I have been able to find: > >   > > https://web.archive.org/web/20140722223512/http://www.bzip.org/1.0.6/bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz > >   > > Download > > replace the package obtained from wget-list > > untar > > and carry on as usual. > >   > > I might attract your attention to the fact that the post at lwn.net is dated August 9th 2018 and so is recent. > >   > > As LFS uses bzip2 extensively it seemed to me that this information might be of some use. I can only hope that the newly downloaded version works. . . > >   > > Many many thanks for the great work, I will let you know if I run into any difficulties with the package. > > I leave it to your judgement as to how to address this potentially important issue. > >   > > Yours sincerely > >   > > Terence Waterhouse > I just checked. It's not on Anduin. There's a link but it leads nowhere. That's strange because I had no problem finding it in 8.3-rc2.  -- Hazel Russman -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
No, as I said the only version I could find was at web.archive.org. When I started 8.3 was not available, so the issue has perhaps already been addressed? I shall continue with 8.2, as my present build is for educational purposes above all.
Sorry for the top posting in the first post, and for the "sir"...
regards
Terence Waterhouse
Michael Shell
2018-09-06 15:52:23 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST)
Post by Terence Waterhouse
https://lwn.net/Articles/762264/
From that article, someone setup a bzip2 gitlab page:

https://gitlab.com/bzip/bzip2

The download button is the one to the far right on the row of buttons
that include "History", e.g.,:

https://gitlab.com/bzip/bzip2/-/archive/master/bzip2-master.tar.gz

Also, it is stated that bzip2 will later resume at its original
distribution site at sourceware:

https://sourceware.org/bzip2/


Lastly, I noticed this interesting article that criticizes xz:

https://www.nongnu.org/lzip/xz_inadequate.html


The conclusion I reach from all this?
That maybe we should all just stick with and/or return to gzip.



Cheers,

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Terence Waterhouse
2018-09-06 16:03:00 UTC
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Message du 06/09/18 18:00
De : "Michael Shell"
Objet : Re: [lfs-support] Info on package bzip2-1.0.6 in LFS 8.2
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Terence Waterhouse wrote: > https://lwn.net/Articles/762264/ From that article, someone setup a bzip2 gitlab page: https://gitlab.com/bzip/bzip2 The download button is the one to the far right on the row of buttons that include "History", e.g.,: https://gitlab.com/bzip/bzip2/-/archive/master/bzip2-master.tar.gz Also, it is stated that bzip2 will later resume at its original distribution site at sourceware: https://sourceware.org/bzip2/ Lastly, I noticed this interesting article that criticizes xz: https://www.nongnu.org/lzip/xz_inadequate.html The conclusion I reach from all this? That maybe we should all just stick with and/or return to gzip. Cheers, Mike Shell -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
Interesting and important information Michael. Thank you. Perhaps the gzip option might seem more reliable? But I am not qualified to answer that.
Terence Waterhouse
Thomas Trepl
2018-09-06 16:26:10 UTC
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Post by Terence Waterhouse
Message du 06/09/18 18:00
Objet : Re: [lfs-support] Info on package bzip2-1.0.6 in LFS 8.2
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Terence Waterhouse
...
Interesting and important information Michael. Thank you. Perhaps
the gzip option might seem more reliable? But I am not qualified to
answer that.
Hi guys,

first, please have a look to the mail format you use. It's quite hard
to read. Simply text format would be appropriate, no html required.

Regarding bzip2: We as LFS cannot "switch back" to gzip as many
packages are provided bz2 compressed. Because of that, we need the
bzip2 package in the book. Otherwise we would not be able to uncompress
.bz2 files which might cause trouble, even more when coming to BLFS.

The disapperance of bzip2.org happened timely just between 8.2 and 8.3.
In 8.2 we have the old link (previously working well) and in the 8.3,
we allready use another location (LFSs own server). So, if you nowadays
use 8.2 (which is perfectly ok), you fill stumble over that issue that
bzip2.org disappeared. We will not change 8.2 or earlier versions of
the book as it is something like "modifying the past".

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Hazel Russman
2018-09-06 16:55:36 UTC
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 18:26:10 +0200
Post by Thomas Trepl
The disapperance of bzip2.org happened timely just between 8.2 and 8.3.
In 8.2 we have the old link (previously working well) and in the 8.3,
we allready use another location (LFSs own server). So, if you nowadays
use 8.2 (which is perfectly ok), you fill stumble over that issue that
bzip2.org disappeared. We will not change 8.2 or earlier versions of
the book as it is something like "modifying the past".
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But it isn't on the server. Just go to the index page on Anduin and try downloading bzip2. It isn't there. The patch is there but not the actual tarball.
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Bruce Dubbs
2018-09-06 17:35:14 UTC
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Post by Hazel Russman
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 18:26:10 +0200
Post by Thomas Trepl
The disapperance of bzip2.org happened timely just between 8.2 and 8.3.
In 8.2 we have the old link (previously working well) and in the 8.3,
we allready use another location (LFSs own server). So, if you nowadays
use 8.2 (which is perfectly ok), you fill stumble over that issue that
bzip2.org disappeared. We will not change 8.2 or earlier versions of
the book as it is something like "modifying the past".
--
Thomas
But it isn't on the server. Just go to the index page on Anduin and try downloading bzip2. It isn't there. The patch is there but not the actual tarball.
Yes it is: http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz

That is the URL in 8.3.

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Bruce Dubbs
2018-09-06 17:30:37 UTC
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Post by Thomas Trepl
Post by Terence Waterhouse
Message du 06/09/18 18:00
Objet : Re: [lfs-support] Info on package bzip2-1.0.6 in LFS 8.2
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Terence Waterhouse
...
Interesting and important information Michael. Thank you. Perhaps
the gzip option might seem more reliable? But I am not qualified to
answer that.
Hi guys,
first, please have a look to the mail format you use. It's quite hard
to read. Simply text format would be appropriate, no html required.
Regarding bzip2: We as LFS cannot "switch back" to gzip as many
packages are provided bz2 compressed. Because of that, we need the
bzip2 package in the book. Otherwise we would not be able to uncompress
.bz2 files which might cause trouble, even more when coming to BLFS.
The disapperance of bzip2.org happened timely just between 8.2 and 8.3.
In 8.2 we have the old link (previously working well) and in the 8.3,
we allready use another location (LFSs own server). So, if you nowadays
use 8.2 (which is perfectly ok), you fill stumble over that issue that
bzip2.org disappeared. We will not change 8.2 or earlier versions of
the book as it is something like "modifying the past".
I agree with Thomas, but I will also point out the second paragraph in
Section 3.1:

"Download locations may not always be accessible. If a download location
has changed since this book was published, Google
(http://www.google.com/) provides a useful search engine for most
packages. If this search is unsuccessful, try one of the alternative
means of downloading discussed at
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/packages.html#packages."

All packages used in LFS and BLFS (any version back to, IIRC, version
6.0) are archived at one of the file mirrors. This includes most
packages that were in development versions of the books but never made
it to a released book.

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Terence Waterhouse
2018-09-06 18:15:08 UTC
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Message du 06/09/18 18:30
De : "Thomas Trepl"
A : "LFS Support List"
Objet : Re: [lfs-support] Info on package bzip2-1.0.6 in LFS 8.2
Am Donnerstag, den 06.09.2018, 18:03 +0200 schrieb Terence Waterhouse: > > > > > Message du 06/09/18 18:00 > > > De : "Michael Shell"
Thanks Thomas, as I found a copy and am now into chapter 6 I will try to get to the end of this build using LFS 8.2. However, for future builds I will of course move on. . .
For Hazel I confirm that the link provided by Bruce works with no problem for me. Thanks also to Bruce for the pertinent reminders of the caveats regarding repositories in chapter 3. Had I looked back I would probably have saved everyone some time !
Perhaps this thread is solved now and can be closed ?
Many thanks to all for the prompt replies
Terence
 
Michael Shell
2018-09-07 00:42:18 UTC
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 18:26:10 +0200
Post by Thomas Trepl
Regarding bzip2: We as LFS cannot "switch back" to gzip as many
packages are provided bz2 compressed.
To clarify - I didn't mean "we" as in specifically LFS, but rather "we"
as in the whole world (should stop using bzip). LOL!


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Bruce Dubbs
2018-09-06 16:58:59 UTC
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Post by Terence Waterhouse
Dear sir,
Although I have been using exclusively Linux for many many years it is
only a few days ago I decided to buils my own system using LFS v.8.2. I
am not quite certain which list this post should actually be on, but I
subscribed to this list because I shall probably need it later... I do
not generally post unnecessary questions, and indeed, I don't post
No problem. You are in the right place.
Post by Terence Waterhouse
Building LFS 8.2 went smoothly until section 5.18 bzip2-1.0.6. When I
You should be using LFS-8.3 which was released about a week ago.

bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz and it's patch are indeed available at

http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/

If you look at Section 3.1, you will find the instructions:

pushd $LFS/sources
md5sum -c md5sums
popd

That should identify any problems with downloading package sources. Or
specifically:

$ md5sum $LFS/sources/bzip2-1.0.6*
00b516f4704d4a7cb50a1d97e6e8e15b bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz
6a5ac7e89b791aae556de0f745916f7f bzip2-1.0.6-install_docs-1.patch

-- Bruce
Post by Terence Waterhouse
stdin: not in gzip format
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
In fact it is apparently a html file according to 'file' output with a
tar.gz extension. I first downloaded the original packages with the
wget-list file, then, meeting this problem, ran wget with the specific
file name. No succes. I tried the site http//:www.bzip.org and could
find no trace of the sources. A visit to the site will tell you why.
I tried all the usual tricks to unpack it with absolutely no succes. To
cut things short I spent 2 days searching the web to no avail then sent
off a desperate search for "what happened to bzip2?" This search
https://lwn.net/Articles/762264/
I also found on this page the following link to the source files of
https://web.archive.org/web/20140722223512/http://www.bzip.org/1.0.6/bzip2-1.0.6.tar.gz
Download
replace the package obtained from wget-list
untar
and carry on as usual.
I might attract your attention to the fact that the post at lwn.net is
dated August 9th 2018 and so is recent.
As LFS uses bzip2 extensively it seemed to me that this information
might be of some use. I can only hope that the newly downloaded version
works. . .
Many many thanks for the great work, I will let you know if I run into
any difficulties with the package.
I leave it to your judgement as to how to address this potentially important issue.
Yours sincerely
Terence Waterhouse
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